Monday, March 16, 2009

Teamwork in the Indian Context

Duke's question of the week is about teamwork and the differences between teams at ISB and those at Duke.

In both form and function, teams are essentially the same at both institutions. Teamwork is an important part of each course, usually comprising 25-40% of each course's workload and grading. At the beginning of the ISB school year, students were assigned to teams teams within their sections (very similar to the core course teamwork structure at Duke). At this point in the year though (the final weeks of the MBA program), students are allowed to choose their own groups, and teams are usually composed of 4-5 students. The ideal team interaction at ISB would involve every member having prepared the case prior to a team meeting, then analyzing the scenario as a group, learning from one another's diverse perspectives, and finally coming to an answer better than the sum of the individuals' independent solutions. In theory, that's the way teams should work at Duke too, right? ...But we all know that sometimes the ideal team interaction is sacrificed in the interest of time, sleep, and sanity! Just as at Duke, teams at ISB find their own ways of interacting and completing tasks too.

As with most new experiences, teamwork here took a bit of getting used to...

Little interaction, lots of trust: As a new student in the community with no prior interactions or trust with my randomly selected team members, I was surprised by the ease with which ISB students split up assignments (not worrying at all about my ability to complete a task - bold!) In several classes, I had to really push to get team meetings scheduled (as opposed to just dividing write-ups among the groups via email and compiling at the last minute), and I felt like the loud, dominant American team member. Other American exchange students expressed the same sentiment and the frustration with the lack of in-person interactions, timely submissions, and email communications within teams at ISB. Some students went through an entire term at ISB never having met face-to-face with their team members, which is very different from my experiences at Duke. That having been said, the students here have worked with one another for nearly a year, and they have established trust, norms, and ways of communicating which we, as exchange students, couldn't possibly understand...the same likely happens in every community over time.

Honor and accountability: As a general rule, it seems that the Duke students at ISB are more aware of Honor Code issues than our local colleagues. Students here must submit an Honor Code cover sheet with every assignment, but the institution doesn't seem to enforce its meaning as much as Duke does. Whereas the Honor Code at Duke is addressed in every class and is a frequent topic of discussion among teams and the larger Fuqua community, I have not sensed the same appreciation of the Honor Code in team interactions here. Most of my classes have not offered an evaluation process for team members, and accountability suffers as a result. Teams with one or two non-participating members seem to rely on the strong contributors to get the work done, but all members names are submitted with the assignment, and grades are given to everyone (in most cases) equally, regardless of the time or effort expended. In more than one exchange student conversation, I heard about team members who had never responded to a single email, written even one sentence for an assignment, or attended a team meeting for the entire term! Although these cases were surely the exception (and ISB students were in the middle of a stressful job placement process, to give these exceptional cases the benefit of the doubt), I'm more appreciative of the emphasis on team development, personal responsibility, and accountability at Fuqua than I was before this experience.

Phones ring, teammates answer: Although Duke students certainly have been known to surf the internet, send a text, or answer a quick call during team meetings, I was totally thrown off when team members here at ISB would carry on long phone conversations in team meetings. I spoke to two friends at ISB about the issue, and they thought it was so funny that I noticed such a thing, remembering their first experiences as professionals in the U.S. and the difference in accepted phone behavior between the two cultures. One woman stated that she was shocked to look around the cubicles in her New Jersey office and not see anyone chatting on their cells during the work day. Another said that she literally had no idea that her mobile had a "silent" function until she moved to the States for work. Prior to that experience, she simply left her ringer on and answered (regardless of if she was at her desk or in a meeting!) whenever it rang. Although I'm sure that different Indian (and American!) companies have their own phone etiquette, these friends' stories indicated that the behavior of some of my teammates here is typical among professionals and students alike in India.

In conclusion, there are more similarities than differences between teams at ISB and those at Duke. Individual teams each have their own norms and ways of coping, and while teamwork can be a really rewarding experience in some cases, it can be hellish in others - and that's true of teams anywhere in the world! However, being away from Duke makes me even more convinced that there's definitely something unique and special about "Team Fuqua."

19 comments:

  1. talk about exaggeration! are u trying to emphasis a difference by quote just the extreme cases?

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  2. poor analysis...
    yr premises don't support yr conclusion. I wonder if this post was a team work from fuqua too.

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  3. Lady, your exchange program is designed to know the cultural difference and to dissolve yourself in it. Since you couldn't do the former, the latter would be too much to ask for. Just because something is non-American, doesn't make it indecent or distractive.
    Yes, thats how we Indians are and we love the way we are. Given a choice, we'd love to continue to be the way we are.
    Lady, you missed the "heart" involved in the actions and thats the reason why you see no reason why we are the way we are.

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  4. When someone comes up with suggestions for improvement, please take them in good spirit. If it's exaggeration or poor analysis, so be it. But i guess this is not something like that, whatever has been said here seems to be a valid concern from an earnest student. If you're not open to development, you can't improve. Let us know what we're strong at and be open to know what we're weak at, only then there can be growth. Let us all grow, together!

    - Prospective ISB student

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  5. "As a general rule, it seems that the Duke students at ISB are more aware of Honor Code issues than our local colleagues"

    This is Hillarious. I think you are not familiar with the Fuqua cheating scandal. You might want to google it up.

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  6. I guess you are viewing things from only a comparative/narrow perspective. I read all your posts on the blog. I think your Behavioural Finance feeling lacked understanding of the behavioural aspects of your classmates. I think you are not able to gauge the mood of the people around you. As a manager your first step would be to understand people around you (processes are important but not absolute) ( A case in example 90% tax on incentives, CEOs saying people would not be motivated – both classic cases of throwing out well laid processes). You are/might-be right in a few things pointed out. But you are seeing them with your predefined glasses (read a pre conditioned brain/thought process). Let me re-write your own experience from a different perspective/culture for argument sake. The students here have great TOLERANCE level, and I understand that it comes from the basic cultural up-bringing, for example, the members of the team do not mind one of their team mates taking important phone calls for long times and they continue to work.

    2) The students here empathise and help their friends at the time of need...... A simple case in example, they do not mind working on the entire project to cover for the preparation of the team mates who have not secured a job......

    I am not saying that every word of my above statements is right, but I can tell you that is the thought process. We find it surprising that Americans split portions of meal within the family and eat. Here family members part with some of their portion to make the other members happy. I guess you need to understand the intricacies of the country, culture and its people before giving out such strong comments.

    Who am I?
    I am mRC, joining ISB this year. I have lived through the MBA experience earlier from XIMB -a reputed Indian B-School and am Engineer and Lawyer by qualifications. I have lived and worked in West for 4 years with my MOUSTACHE (which was not right to them, but is part of my culture), Am a successful business man and coming up with a 22 floors condominium project behind ISB (remember the sounds of cranes and hammers you talked about).

    Why did I write about myself?
    Just to tell you that it is not a Tom, Dick or Harry writing this comment and is a credible Indian, who has learnt many good things while I stayed in the west.

    What do I want you to do?
    Stop hate sequence, you would only hurt yourself. Instead start learning the nuances/style of Indian Management and learn few things which are different.

    What should you know? Understand that not everything Indian is useless and not everything American is great.

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  7. I can understand you felt bad at ISB and I apologize on behalf of the ISB community.

    We are extremely Sorry that we could not make upto the culture of Fuqua and could not surpass your expectations.

    I am sure we are not at the level where you have rated us but still even if there are some gaps in perception, we will have to work on.

    On other side, I would request you also to reread your post and the strong comments you have raised about a global B School.


    I think, during the course, you could have raised the issue with your teammates. I am sure they must have listened to your suggestions.

    Might be that your suggestion could have helped your fellow mates to improve on and infact at the end your team might have come as a “True Winner”.

    I have had various experiences where only one member brought the whole team back on track and I am pretty sure anyone, with his/her efforts, can do this. . . .

    Good Luck for the rest of your course. I am sure your next experience, if any, would not be as bad as this was if you will look at cultural aspects as well.

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  8. Team work is when you are okay with someone not putting in their assignment if they have an all important job-interview the next day .. not about being dominant and forcing someone to do something when they could clearly use their time better.
    That is being selfish :)

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  9. "Another said that she literally had no idea that her mobile had a "silent" function until she moved to the States for work"
    Did you really believe this to be true? Ain't it possible that she could be exaggerating to gain audience interest in her otherwise pointless remark.
    Lack of perception has led to an error in judgement.
    The intent to showcase the flaws in the system has in fact exposed your inability to adapt, appreciate cultural differences.By commenting here i make myself as immature as you are.

    And yeah one last thing, you are not as ignorant as the rest. At least you have figured that people don't use elephants to commute and snakes aren't backyard pets in India.

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  10. There are some elements which you would want to know about people coming from b schools from West.

    - International students usually have very few intelligent points for discussion, still they are "trusted" to sit next on table. This may be a reason of lesser in person interaction with you. This is more person dependent than a norm. People are deifintely smart enough to know whom to spend time with.

    - The assignments in Duke are almost 30% of what ISB has. They are given leeway because some professors fail to see the pressure before they come down to teach on campus. I am sure with this level of stress, students at Duke would have given up even before they would have started.

    - Honor Code at ISB is a strict game, ask people who face it.

    - Since the point of team work has been raised, it means- "Trust", Ability to delegate and distribute time rationally. We are given more work than we can chew to learn all the qualities of managing any kind of work under stress.

    "Life is not easy and "process oritented", thats why India is moving at the pace it is.

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  11. Life at any Indian B school is not easy. ISBians spend on an average 18-20 hours working during core terms because thats the kind of work stress they are subjected to. Switching off the cell phones to wait for an opportune time is a luxury we cant afford. We have to manage our work and personal life within 24 hours that have been granted to us. I can guarantee that none of you can stand the core terms at ISB.

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  12. Good comments. Will be useful in my understanding of ISB - Class of 2010.

    To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing - Elbert Hubbard

    My 2 Paisa - don't get defensive every time someone talks negative about school

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  13. Hey Gretchen,

    Nice blog. I got here through this particular post, then went along and looked at the whole thing.

    Interesting to see life @ ISB from the personal perspective of an exchange student. I hope to be there soon as well.
    I think there are probably some valid points you have raised regarding the cultural/academic differences between the two schools. While I may NOT agree with all of them, your experiences are after all your own, and some of that with regards to Indian culture ('flexibility' in appointments etc) is true and is something that that cannot be defended and needs to be worked on.
    On some other points, maybe you could have tried bringing them up with your team. No offense, but I think you may not have realised the kind of pressure people doing a 1 year MBA may face during the course, especially during placement season in the current economic scenario.

    My couple of cents :D

    PS: Decided to leave in my ID in case you have any feedback. Not much sense in posting anonymously, is there?

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  14. if you think meaning of 'team work' lies in just meeting in person everybody i am sorry for duke & your developed country!!!!

    Fyi - team work lies in understanding the core strengths of each of the team members, leveraging that effectively to deliver results and managing time effectively...

    havent u learnt even the basics in your so called the grt duke???? sad sad....

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  15. you know what guys .. this reminds me of Rashmi bansal's Youth Curry where she started out by pointing out negatives about ISB and concluded with a "IIM A is great" note

    Somthing about the FT rankings coming in to play?

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  16. Extremely surprising to see this from you Gretchen. Really.

    When bringing out the differences between ISB and Duke in terms of team work, I wonder if you considered the fact that if you had a job interview tomorrow, your team mates would gladly complete the assignment for you - even if it means they stay up till 4am to do it. To me, thats a definite PLUS at ISB.

    Second, about not meeting - ISB has 5 or 6 weeks in a term. If we spend all our time meeting and norming and bonding, we will never get everything done.

    Third, about cell phones - yes you are right. We do talk a lot on our cell phones. Thats because FAMILY is important. We spend time doing all the work and still find time to talk to them everyday. It can be irritating, but thats something YOU have to learn from the experience.

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  17. Honor.

    Interesting. I think not bringing this up with your team mates and writing it in a blog is dishonorable.

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  18. Gretchen,

    I think your analysis is dead on and similar to my experience here as well.

    These are differences, not better, not worse really, but certainly frustrating for those who are used to more structured approaches.

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  19. Gretchen,

    I agree with most of the points you have raised here in the post.

    In fact I myself am guilty of some of the unprofessional behavior u pointed out. There is no point being defensive abt all this stuff.

    thats what exchange is all about, we learn each others good behavior/customs.

    Cell phone manners and a sense of professional responsibility are so very important (and needs to be grilled into students in a school environment)

    Dont know abt duke but surely honor code here is more on paper and in my humble view seldom followed in true spirit.

    thanks for helping me out in recognizing some of my own follies.

    Harjeet
    CO2009
    ISB

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